One of the most interesting aspects of the incelosphere is the spotlight it shines on female behavior/female sexuality.
I was ranting about hybristophilia and the prevalence male sociopaths in female-centric media, male financial objectification, and the fetishization of male violence long before the incelosphere ever captured my interest.
When I lurk on incel forums or incel subreddits what stands out to me the most is this: they are noticing the same things I’ve been noticing for years. For years, I have been screaming into the void, while romance/erotica writers call me a “hater” a “troll” or a “pick me.” It’s infuriating to see male violence consistently fetishized, and then the same women getting wet to 50 Shades or amazon rape smut will scream about toxic masculinity. What if the so-called toxic masculinity is, in part, a response to the female gaze? What if female sexuality encourages male aggression and male violence in both subtle and explicit ways?
I very much believe that male aggression and violence is, at least partly, a response to the female gaze. When women lust after violence, aggression, and emotional damage, we reinforce that these are positive characteristics. We tell fiction writers they must be responsible in portraying marginalized groups, because we all recognize that fiction has an influence on real-world attitudes. But that same logic doesn’t extend to the fetishization of male violence. The worst part is, Eric Harris bragged in his journal about all the fans he would have after he committed the massacre. He knew idiot women would get wet to the horrific murders of his classmates. And if you get off to fetishized male violence, you are also culpable here.
So a good portion of women get off to male violence. Somehow it is considered misogynistic to point this phenomena out.
I don’t feel it is misogynistic. It’s pointing out a true thing. A true thing is just….true? I’m so close to channeling Ben Shapiro right now.
Pointing out this terrible phenomena is an attempt to solve a problem. My ultimate goal is to shame my fellow women into getting it the fuck together. I’m absolutely not bothered when incels or anyone in the manosphere poke fun at female sexuality. It’s one of my favorite things on the internet. They’re the only men who can see what’s up.
Feminists argue that it is misogynistic to point out that women get off to deranged and violent men. Well….. they do? If you’re triggered, you are probably one of those women that gets off to that. Why would you be upset about that being pointed out, unless you secretly have violent fantasies of male domination? If you’re like me, and plenty of other women who find hybristophilia quite disgusting and harmful to both men and women, then you would be happy to see other people point it out. You’d want to see the world stop normalizing it.
Incels are not misogynistic for noticing things that are objectively true, to a horrifyingly large extent, about female sexuality.
Women Get Wet To Male Violence
Data scientist Dr. Stephen-Davidowitz analyzed data from Pornhub and found that women searched for abusive and violent porn, where the women is forced into sex or caused extreme pain, twice as often as men.
62% of women have rape fantasies.
Women Get Wet To Money and Love Men Opportunistically
Women Get Wet To Mean and Controlling Men
A study by Carter et al provides evidence that women find men possessing Dark Triad traits more attractive.
There is evidence that males who are bullies during childhood have greater romantic/sexual success with women later on.
Women Care About Looks Over Personality
Below is the ‘atomic blackpill.’ A Tinder experiment conducted by guys in the manosphere. They used a typical ‘Chad’ picture to see how much terrible shit they could get away with saying. The results are terrifying.
And again, I’ll steal a tactic from the feminists here: You’re only mad if this describes you.
“Wah…you don’t need to say “Not all Men” and the only reason you would want to is if YOU are one of the men we’re talking about!” Fuck you, feminists. Take some of your own medicine please. If you are a woman who doesn’t do any of the shit that I’ve described, then good for you. Go off. I’m speaking in general terms. Obviously. I’m not saying every single human female on the planet does this. We’re talking about widespread trends.
If it’s okay for women to point out widespread poor male behavior, then it should be okay for men to point out widespread poor female behavior. It is not misogynistic to point out true shit. It just isn’t!
So, yeah, I think it’s pretty funny when incels notice the weirdness of female sexuality. Because mainstream female sexuality is ridiculous and deserves to be mocked.
If you masturbated to 50 Shades, a book that fetishizes male emotional damage, you deserve to be mocked. You should feel bad that you get wet to fixing broken men. You’re fucked up. How horrible a way to objectify men. How absolutely vile.
If you read amazon smut that includes rape or coercion, you deserve to be mocked. It makes me mad as hell to see women getting off to rape. Those same women will turn around and shriek at incels for putting rape fantasies on their forums. Like, sis, WHAT?? They’re doing the exact same thing as you. There’s such a damn outrage disconnect. Nobody should be eroticizing or glorifying rape: men or women. I’m not excusing the men who do it. I’m saying you’re a hypocrite if you masturbate to rape and then get triggered by men larping as rapists online. And if you’re angry at edgy incels, you need to save a good dose of outrage for the romance/erotica community.
Check out the list of Top 100 Romance Novel on Goodreads. Aside from the absolute lack of male body diversity (yet, we want to turn around and tell men looks don’t matter??), we have a Judith McNaught novel….we have titles that include words like “Bully” and “Bastard” and “Mine.” Women want asshole, controlling men. This is why two of the most popular romance series of all time are 50 Shades and Twilight. Violent and controlling men. One is a billionaire and one is a vampire.
And people always want to come at me telling me I’m cherry picking. If you are legit going to come at me and say that controlling, dickish men with the hint of violence ever-present in each interaction with the heroine, are NOT the most popular romance novels, that they don’t make up the bulk of romance novels, then I’m going to need you to prove that. The most popular, most mainstream romance novels are the ones with controlling, asshole men who might hurt the protagonist. The ones that become household names.
It’s true that not all women read romance, but if you’re actually reading and not skimming, you’ll notice I’ve included links to studies and stats that prove the most problematic attitudes of the romance genre are acted out in real life. The lack of outrage over the romance/erotica genres is an indicator of how normalized the fetsihization of male violence is.
We teach little girls from a very young age that a man who might hurt you is the romantic ideal.
In Beauty and the Beast the Beast physically threatens Belle. Her body language in the following scene is of someone who fears for their physical safety.
But…I guess it’s cool….since he saved her from the wolves and all….
The fact that the scene with the wolves happens so quickly after Belle flees the castle in terror makes me think the proximity of these scenes is intentional on some level. The message here is: a dangerous man is a strong man, a man who can protect you.
To be completely honest, growing up in a world drenched in fetishized male violence like this, I’m not surprised women love bad boys. I’m not surprised women get off to rebels. I’m not surprised that the calm, peaceful, cooperative men struggle to find romantic companionship. And I’m not surprised that when those men end up on incel forums losing their shit, women start finding them attractive. Our world is full of signals, in movies, books, and in everyday interactions, framing assertive and obnoxious men as the ideal, and passive, quiet, and agreeable men as boring, desperate, and weak. A Brock University Study shows that men with psychopathic traits are more likely to be deemed attractive by women. The study frames it as the men are just more charming and know how to manipulate. I’m not buying it. I think women are conditioned to go for men who are loud and bombastic, over introverted men, even if that comes with some creepy or controlling behaviors.
Is that the world we want to live in? A world that rewards aggressive and emotionally-unhinged men, while punishing the passive and sweet men. A world that conditions little girls who then grow up into women who are titillated by male violence?
We can’t be angry at incels for being so damn edgy unless we’re also going to be mad at the women who get off to that edgy behavior. If you’re defending the violence in the romance genre, then you have no standing to ever criticize online male misogyny. You’d be a hypocrite.
So, unapologetically, I will continue to think it’s absolutely hysterical when men notice how fucking deviant female sexuality is.
Because I want it to change.
I want it to change so that women are more likely to have relationships with men who respect them and treat them well. I don’t want women to be hurt, killed, emotionally abused, intimidated, or even disrespected by the men they love. I know it’s not the politically-correct opinion to hold women accountable for their choices. I don’t care. If this generation of women made a conscious effort to stop fetishizing violent men and to stop objectifying men in general, the next generation of girls and women would be primed to make better choices.
I want it to change so that less children grow up in abusive homes. Women selecting men with aggressive personalities leads to not only women, but also children being abused. I believe the effects of widespread domestic violence and child abuse probably echo out into society on a scale we can’t even imagine. How much better would the world be after two or three generations of women actively deciding to flip the switch on what they find attractive in men?
I want it to change so that less good and decent men live lonely and terrible lives. Good and decent men shouldn’t be incels. And I don’t just mean the self-described ones on the internet. I mean all the lonely male virgins who would never call themselves an incel, but the term fits their life circumstance.
I want it to change because women just look damn stupid if you look at female-centric media.
Shame is a powerful tool for shaping human behavior. So, damn right, I want men to laugh at women. And I’m gonna laugh at women.
Because a world with Columbine fangirls, incel groupies, women sending love letters to murderers and child rapists, is a world that we all need to be laughing at. It’s ridiculous. And the most ridiculous part is that all of those supposedly deviant women aren’t really that deviant at all. They have simply taken incredibly mainstream aspects of female sexuality and followed them to their logical conclusion.
We live in a world that fetishizes bad and broken boys. And that’s really all the Columbine fangirls, incel groupies, and death-row letter writers are doing. They’ve done exactly what they’ve been conditioned to do from childhood; found the most broken and bad boys to lust over.